My thoughts: A. Does Dr.P mean hacked as in the broke the system or the "hip" way he uses it to refer to the bloggy system open learning program? B. He meant hacked as in hacked. C. That's so freaking genius, why are Righetti Students so slow and lame. D. It's probably because we don't have Ipads. E.At least one of these students was meant to be computer geniuses F.Or maybe not, maybe LAUSD system just sucked. G. We DO have Princeton coming to school, that makes us better right? I wonder if they do. F. No idea. The one google search came up with nothing. H. Aw man stupid alphabet. Too late to go back. I. LAUSD stands for Los Angeles Unified School District, not Los Angeles University San Diego which I took point blank and did not question in my head. J. Okay really? It took them a week. Wow, come on guys. (Both Righetti and their system creators.) Either they're (The LAUSD students) getting too much computer schooling or we're not getting enough! K. 1 billion dollars. Woooww. Wonder how much of that went to the security system creation... L. Now for some real comments. I think why in the world are we giving teens Ipads. Teens are along the same rules as mob mentality, give on person a knife, okay they're probably cut their vegetables, give 300 people knives, one of them is bound to get stabbed! No no no no. Second why were they allowed to take them home. They probably should have been left at school. That's probably the biggest mistake. Or maybe they should have just integrated the Ipads slowly until everyone learned to respect them. I think, while the idea was nice and had a lot of innovative grandeur, it really should have been though through more. Poo Poo on the planning, hot dog on those kids that hacked it!
Me too. Thanks for making the alphabet fun again. RE: the use of the word "hacked"... I was just parroting the link's headline. In general, when I use the word these days I mean, "to modify so as to work more effectively for the purpose." Obviously, purpose-- and the authority to determine and enforce it-- carries a lot of weight in determining whether a "hack" is genius, illegal, or both.
The fact that these students were able to hack the system in such a short time was learning in in of it's self. Teachers should admire the fact that the students were taking the time to get to know their device. Now that being said, if students are on twitter during class, that is a whole other issue. Students should not be punished, because the security system on the device they were given was faulty. I agree with Madison's thought that these problems should have been planned for beforehand.
Students were given iPads and expected to use them for only educational purposes... it's like parent protection locks on the internet; we will find a way to cheat the system.
What if the system invites you to actively hack it in order to improve it? (Like democracy, at least in theory.) Do you think students' argument is with a badly managed system, or with the idea of having a "system" in the first place?
I agree with Kendall. Actually hacking an iPad is a pretty impressive thing, no matter for what use it's being hacked. And learning how to hack an iPad is still learning. It's harvesting information and applying that information to your world. The bottom line is that the kids who learned how to hack these LEARNED something. Especially when it's something technological like iPads, that goes a long way.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a school in the future that gives an iPad to a student and says, "Go home and hack this" The bottom line is, it's learning.
I'm surprised that administrators didn't expect this to happen. It seems obvious to me that at least one student would be able to hack the system and that the information on how to do it would quickly spread. Maybe the kids who figured out how to hack the Ipads were planning to enter some kind of computer science/programming field of work. In that case, hacking an Ipad is totally educational. This situation should have been expected. Did they really expect teenagers to follow the system? Also, I totally wish our school had Ipads!
I feel that the situation should have been expected, if a whole school of teenagers are given an internet device, they are bound to use it the way they want to. It is shocking how fast the students found a way around the security system! What interests me is that the school district didn't plan for this to happen, maybe they didn't try hacking the system themselves to see how faulty it is? Who knows, but I feel that if they wanted to keep the restrictions they should of tried their best to keep it safe. Another question I have is why is it such a big deal if the student sends an occasional tweet or surfs the web? I mean if they are keeping up with their school work on the same device it shouldn't be that big of a problem.
My thoughts:
ReplyDeleteA. Does Dr.P mean hacked as in the broke the system or the "hip" way he uses it to refer to the bloggy system open learning program?
B. He meant hacked as in hacked.
C. That's so freaking genius, why are Righetti Students so slow and lame.
D. It's probably because we don't have Ipads.
E.At least one of these students was meant to be computer geniuses
F.Or maybe not, maybe LAUSD system just sucked.
G. We DO have Princeton coming to school, that makes us better right? I wonder if they do.
F. No idea. The one google search came up with nothing.
H. Aw man stupid alphabet. Too late to go back.
I. LAUSD stands for Los Angeles Unified School District, not Los Angeles University San Diego which I took point blank and did not question in my head.
J. Okay really? It took them a week. Wow, come on guys. (Both Righetti and their system creators.) Either they're (The LAUSD students) getting too much computer schooling or we're not getting enough!
K. 1 billion dollars. Woooww. Wonder how much of that went to the security system creation...
L. Now for some real comments. I think why in the world are we giving teens Ipads. Teens are along the same rules as mob mentality, give on person a knife, okay they're probably cut their vegetables, give 300 people knives, one of them is bound to get stabbed! No no no no. Second why were they allowed to take them home. They probably should have been left at school. That's probably the biggest mistake. Or maybe they should have just integrated the Ipads slowly until everyone learned to respect them.
I think, while the idea was nice and had a lot of innovative grandeur, it really should have been though through more. Poo Poo on the planning, hot dog on those kids that hacked it!
I feel like I just got a peek into the inner workings of your mind during that comment; it is complex but amazing.
DeleteMe too. Thanks for making the alphabet fun again. RE: the use of the word "hacked"... I was just parroting the link's headline. In general, when I use the word these days I mean, "to modify so as to work more effectively for the purpose." Obviously, purpose-- and the authority to determine and enforce it-- carries a lot of weight in determining whether a "hack" is genius, illegal, or both.
DeleteThe fact that these students were able to hack the system in such a short time was learning in in of it's self. Teachers should admire the fact that the students were taking the time to get to know their device. Now that being said, if students are on twitter during class, that is a whole other issue. Students should not be punished, because the security system on the device they were given was faulty. I agree with Madison's thought that these problems should have been planned for beforehand.
ReplyDeleteStudents were given iPads and expected to use them for only educational purposes... it's like parent protection locks on the internet; we will find a way to cheat the system.
ReplyDeleteWhat if the system invites you to actively hack it in order to improve it? (Like democracy, at least in theory.) Do you think students' argument is with a badly managed system, or with the idea of having a "system" in the first place?
DeleteI agree with Kendall. Actually hacking an iPad is a pretty impressive thing, no matter for what use it's being hacked. And learning how to hack an iPad is still learning. It's harvesting information and applying that information to your world. The bottom line is that the kids who learned how to hack these LEARNED something. Especially when it's something technological like iPads, that goes a long way.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't be surprised if there's a school in the future that gives an iPad to a student and says, "Go home and hack this"
The bottom line is, it's learning.
Agreed. And if I manage to get my hands on a bunch of iPads, that may very well be the first assignment.
DeleteI'm surprised that administrators didn't expect this to happen. It seems obvious to me that at least one student would be able to hack the system and that the information on how to do it would quickly spread.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the kids who figured out how to hack the Ipads were planning to enter some kind of computer science/programming field of work. In that case, hacking an Ipad is totally educational.
This situation should have been expected. Did they really expect teenagers to follow the system?
Also, I totally wish our school had Ipads!
I feel that the situation should have been expected, if a whole school of teenagers are given an internet device, they are bound to use it the way they want to. It is shocking how fast the students found a way around the security system! What interests me is that the school district didn't plan for this to happen, maybe they didn't try hacking the system themselves to see how faulty it is? Who knows, but I feel that if they wanted to keep the restrictions they should of tried their best to keep it safe. Another question I have is why is it such a big deal if the student sends an occasional tweet or surfs the web? I mean if they are keeping up with their school work on the same device it shouldn't be that big of a problem.
ReplyDeleteIpad also for learning, So i think it's necessary. The situation should have been expected, if all school students given and internet device.
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